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Canoe Rodholder Challenge

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We challenge you to design a new rod holder for Trapper Canoes.

Fishing is an activity that so many of us enjoy! Outdoor sports fans know that a universal fishing rod holder would be a big help when you and your friends are out on the water.

Trapper Canoes wants to provide an eco-friendly option for their nature-loving, fishing community. The rod holder you create should be made of environmentally friendly and recyclable materials like wood, cork, natural fabric, biological resin, leather, or metal. If you'd like to propose a different material, just ask!

Your design needs to include: the mounting system to the canoe, the rotating system for the rod holder and the rod holder itself. Trapper wants very simple ideas but very creative additions outside these three main components may be considered.

Your mounting system should allow the rod holder to be moved along the edge of the canoe (see pictures and specifications). The canoe should not be damaged in any way when changing positions of the rod holder (no drilled holes, etc.)

The rod holder must be usable with different types of rods. Let's keep this solution universal! Allow for adjustments to the angle between the length of the canoe and the rod, too.

Winning designs should be universal, environmentally friendly, manufacturable, easy to use, and match the Trapper Canoes brand (Go to trappercanoes.com to get a sense of their style.)

PLEASE NOTE:

The specifications, requirements and technical details will be updated by October 7 based on your questions and feedback so there is enough time for everyone to ask questions, refine specs with the sponsor. The goal of the first week is to make sure GrabCADrs know what to work on and what Tahe Outdoors expects.

Requirements

  • Use eco-friendly materials in your design: wood, cork, natural fabrics, biological resin, leather or metal. Other materials need approval from the jury.

  • The rod holder must be universal to fit all types of fishing rods.

  • The rod holder must be rigid and durable.

  • The rod holder must be water and weather resistant.

  • The mounting system must not damage the canoe. It should fit all Trapper Canoes, the edge profile dimensions are shown in the above image.

  • Submit your entry with the native CAD format, STEP or IGES version, and include a rendering.

  • The winning design will be:
    - Universal
    - Environmentally friendly
    - Manufacturable
    - Easy to use
    - Match the Trapper Canoes brand

  • Project descriptions are strongly encouraged:
    - How you achieved a universal fit for rod holders
    - How your design mounts to canoes
    - Design dimensions
    - What eco-friendly materials you used
    - What design elements mirror the Trapper Canoes brand

Download specification

Rules

  • The competition is open to everyone. Multiple entries are acceptable. Team entries are welcome - prize will be transferred to team leader. Participants may only win one prize per Challenge.

  • Tag your entry with “rodholder” when uploading to GrabCAD. If you submit through the "Submit entry" button, this should be added automatically. Only entries with valid tag will participate. Only entries uploaded to GrabCAD through the "Submit entry" button on this Challenge page will be considered an entry.

  • By entering this competition, you 1. Warrant that the work is your original work. 2. To the best of your knowledge, it is not, and has not been in production or otherwise previously published or exhibited. 3. Neither the work nor its use infringes the intellectual property rights (whether a patent, utility model, functional design right, aesthetic design right, trade mark, copyright or any other intellectual property right) of any other person.
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    If you think an entry may infringe on existing copyrighted materials, please email challenges@grabcad.com.

  • Applicants are not entitled to any compensation or reimbursement for any costs. The applicant’s participation shall not constitute employment, assignment or offer of employment or assignment.

  • Winning designs will be chosen based on the rules and requirements. The Challenge ends on November 7, 2013 (11:59pm UTC). Finalists will be announced by November 30, 2013. Winners will be announced by December 7, 2013.

  • The awarded participant is solely liable for the payment of all taxes, duties and other similar measures if imposed on the reward pursuant to the legislation of the country of his/her residence, domicile, citizenship, workplace, or any other criterion of similar nature.

  • We will release the finalists at least one week before the final announcement to give the Community an opportunity to support for their favorites and voice any concerns. The jury will take these into consideration when picking the final winners. This new addition is based on feedback from you!

  • Void where prohibited.

Prizes

Kayaks for the Top 5 winners!

1st - 3rd Place

Tahe Marine Fit 147 PE kayak

4th - 5th Place

Tahe Marine Fit 132 PE kayak

About the jury?

The jury is comprised of experts from Tahe Outdoors and GrabCAD. Each entry will be judged on whether it is universal, environmentally friendly, manufacturable, easy to use, and matches the Trapper Canoes brand.

About Tahe Outdoors

Tahe Outdoors, the leading European watersports company is delivering innovation to paddlers across the globe. Tahe Outdoors is the top manufacturing and distribution company in the field of high quality watersports equipment in Europe. Our mission is to change people’s lives by introducing them to one of the most relaxing ways to spend their free time – kayaking. We are doing that in the most reliable and enjoyable way - through the kayaks, canoes and paddling gear manufactured by us in France and Estonia with attention to every single detail as well as concern for the environment. Company was established in 1989 by competition paddlers. Today, Tahe Outdoors operates with 8 brands of watersport equipment (Tahe Marine, Zegul, Trapper, Beluga, Riot, Boreal Design and Seaward.) and has 3 factories with 90 employees. Quality is reflected in every single detail of our products and we do not make any compromises there.

76 comments

  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 7 months ago

    This is a fun problem to solve! Start asking your questions, now...

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • Bar Danino

    Bar Danino 7 months ago

    Is the picture on the right a cross-section of the edge of the canoe?

    Bar Danino has uploaded 3 CAD models & has left 26 comments.
  • Sudeep Kumar

    Sudeep Kumar 7 months ago

    can you please post a pic or something ...........there is lot of confusion about it.......

    Sudeep Kumar has uploaded 8 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • Leandro Fernandes

    Leandro Fernandes 7 months ago

    First and foremost I do really hope you get the best results possible. However I have a question regarding the prizes, will you also cover the shipping costs of, well, sending the kayaks to the winners?

    Leandro Fernandes has uploaded 11 CAD models & has left 20 comments.
  • Fahad Rafi

    Fahad Rafi 7 months ago

    i cant swim so the prize aint worth it.... ;)

    Fahad Rafi has uploaded 90 CAD models & has left 203 comments.
  • Bar Danino

    Bar Danino 7 months ago

    You could always sell it...

    Bar Danino has uploaded 3 CAD models & has left 26 comments.
  • David Chen

    David Chen 7 months ago

    very intesting

    David Chen has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 10 comments.
  • Abhijith

    Abhijith 7 months ago

    Could you describe more on how the kayak sides look where the rod holder is to be mounted...

    Abhijith has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 6 comments.
  • Abhijith

    Abhijith 7 months ago

    you have given the dimension diagram but i cant figure out what part it is and where does it come....

    Abhijith has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 6 comments.
  • abirshakil

    abirshakil 7 months ago

    .

    abirshakil has uploaded 61 CAD models & has left 110 comments.
  • Shaman Jim

    Shaman Jim 7 months ago

    Never sure about the shipping on these kinds of items. But if you did win, (since they sell canoes anyway) perhaps Trapper could sell your canoe on your behalf and send you the difference minus a 5% sellers fee or something? I think that may be fair considering I live 5000+ Km away. ;)

    Shaman Jim has uploaded 9 CAD models & has left 28 comments.
  • MASA

    MASA 7 months ago

    need to know how many sizes it is suppose to accomodate , what are the dimension of these sizes an how it is suppose to be mounted?

    MASA has uploaded 74 CAD models & has left 46 comments.
  • Shane Anderson

    Shane Anderson 7 months ago

    I love my canoe - but hate fishing! Booo.

    Shane Anderson has uploaded 40 CAD models & has left 447 comments.
  • Robin D

    Robin D 7 months ago

    I need to know the distance between the top of the canoe border and the first obstacle that you encounter, for example the horizontal crossbeam(s).

    Robin D has uploaded 7 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • celt

    celt 7 months ago

    Please give a more elaborate specification. I've more or less finished a design but have a feeling I have misinterpreted dimensions.

    celt has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 41 comments.
  • thinkin3D

    thinkin3D 7 months ago

    mcluka brings up a good point in his comments (fishing rod holder version 3). Is the goal here to use 100% eco friendly materials or is it satisfactory to use plastics and rubbers for machanisms that essentially require those types of materials to be used?

    thinkin3D has uploaded 71 CAD models & has left 2093 comments.
  • Morteza Mokhtari

    Morteza Mokhtari 7 months ago

    I think this rod holder disturb dynamic of canoes when a big fish is caught in fish hook!
    do you are in agreement with me?!

    Morteza Mokhtari has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 2 comments.
  • Doug Davey

    Doug Davey 7 months ago

    Is it practical that we design from outside of the USA. Are you going to ship a boat/kayaking to South Africa ..... if a South African was to win?

    Doug Davey has uploaded 41 CAD models & has left 389 comments.
  • Matthew Stonebraker

    Matthew Stonebraker 7 months ago

    Doug Davey has a great point. Every single one of the finalists from the recent GE challenge was from outside the USA, it seems pretty plausible to have international winners here too.

    Matthew Stonebraker has uploaded 6 CAD models & has left 49 comments.
  • Doug Davey

    Doug Davey 7 months ago

    OK ....... I see you have outlets in Austrlia so iiiiiiif I win I will have the Tahe Marine Fit 147 PE kayak sent to my son. BUT can anyone create a model of the Trapper Canoes or is there already a model somewgere?

    Doug Davey has uploaded 41 CAD models & has left 389 comments.
  • Kamyar

    Kamyar 7 months ago

    This challenge seems to be 1st World country problem. Out of touch with the rest of the planet.

    Kamyar has uploaded 133 CAD models & has left 2547 comments.
  • EVILL

    EVILL 7 months ago

    How many people usually go fishing in a canoe?
    A person usually?
    Two people is the most common?
    Three .....?

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  • celt

    celt 7 months ago

    @Doug I've created a model for the canoe, it isn't 100% accurate although the profile for the canoe above is pretty close, It can be created by extruding profiles and then cutting body's. Add a few blends and everything's fine :)

    celt has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 41 comments.
  • michiel

    michiel 7 months ago

    Is it allowed to use PA6 or PE injection moulding?

    michiel has uploaded 0 CAD models & has left 2 comments.
  • michiel

    michiel 7 months ago

    What are the sizes of fishing rods? What is the force a fish can pull on the rod?

    michiel has uploaded 0 CAD models & has left 2 comments.
  • Kristo Klementi

    Kristo Klementi 6 months ago

    Hello,

    Here are some answers to your questions about the challenge.

    Leandro Fernande
    Yes, Trapper will cover the transport costs to the dealer closest to you.

    Shaman Jim
    Tahe Outdoors has a dealer in Australia where you could receive your prize.

    Robin D
    The inner surface of the Canoe is smooth as shown on the drawing of the edge profile.

    thinkin3d
    Eco-friendly solutions are favoured. It is satisfactory to use plastics and rubbers where absolutely needed.

    Doug Davey
    Unfortunately Taheoutdoors does not have a dealer in Africa.

    fjrivas
    The canoes are made for 1 - 3 people, depending on the canoe.

    michiel
    Eco-fiendly solutions are favoured but we might consider usage of some injection moulded parts.

    If you have any more questions then please leave them here.
    Keep up the good work! We allready have some very interesting designs.

    Kristo Klementi
    Tahe Outdoors

    Kristo Klementi has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 9 comments.
  • Daniele Grandi

    Daniele Grandi 6 months ago

    What are the units of the dimensions in the drawing? mm?

    Daniele Grandi has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 9 comments.
  • Kristo Klementi

    Kristo Klementi 6 months ago

    Yes, the dimensions are in mm.

    Kristo Klementi
    Tahe Outdoors

    Kristo Klementi has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 9 comments.
  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 6 months ago

    68 entries so far. It's really incredible to see all these creative solutions!

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • M.G. Fouché

    M.G. Fouché 6 months ago

    FOR KRISTO KLEMENTV

    What happens if your TOP 5 winners are from South Africa? Like Kristo Klementv said
    to Doug "Unfortunately Taheoutdoors does not have a de aler in Africa".

    How will the problem be solved? Kristo Klementi said to Leandro Fernande
    Yes, Trapper will cover the transport costs to the dealer closest to you.

    Well how will a winner from Africa receive there prizeV

    M.G. Fouché has uploaded 38 CAD models & has left 9 comments.
  • Kristo Klementi

    Kristo Klementi 6 months ago

    Hello M.G Fouche
    As i allready said before, Tahe Outdoors will cover the transport cost to the dealer closest to you.
    Further transport of the prize is up to the winner.
    Kristo Klementi
    Tahe Outdoors

    Kristo Klementi has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 9 comments.
  • Alexey

    Alexey 5 months ago

    Just want to wish everyone GOOD LUCK!

    Alexey has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • EVILL

    EVILL 5 months ago

    Very interesting, and had a good idea, but not to do with a canoe, if elected .... : (

    EVILL has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 27 comments.
  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 5 months ago

    Final hours! Get your entry in now to avoid the end of Challenge rush. Best of luck to all. Email me at sara@grabcad.com if you have any trouble.

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • e.g.oussama

    e.g.oussama 5 months ago

    can i add my desien now

    e.g.oussama has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 24 comments.
  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 5 months ago

    @e.g.oussama The deadline is passed. Email me at sara@grabcad.com with questions. I'm sorry you missed this one, but there will be more opportunities! You can still upload your idea to your GrabCAD profile.

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • e.g.oussama

    e.g.oussama 5 months ago

    ok ...thank's sara

    e.g.oussama has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 24 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 5 months ago

    will the finalists be announced or just the winners? and how are winners contacted? via personal email or by our grabcad accounts?

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 5 months ago

    So who are the finalists?

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • mcluka

    mcluka 5 months ago

    Classic, whenever I participated in any of these competitions, the reuslts were never shown on the day they should be.

    mcluka has uploaded 13 CAD models & has left 48 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 5 months ago

    its now 2nd December and finalists haven't been announced

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • seghier khaled

    seghier khaled 5 months ago

    but the submission closed on time

    seghier khaled has uploaded 0 CAD models & has left 89 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 5 months ago

    'Winning designs will be chosen based on the rules and requirements. The Challenge ends on November 7, 2013 (11:59pm UTC). Finalists will be announced by November 30, 2013. Winners will be announced by December 7, 2013'

    there's only 4 more day until the winners are supposed to be announced, why hasn't anything been announced yet?

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • IVO ALBERTI

    IVO ALBERTI 5 months ago

    Do not worry Andy ... so do win an American ... so spend less
    the delivery of the canoe ...

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  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 5 months ago

    you do realise Tahe Outdoors is based in Europe? Also they have the prizes sent from your nearest dealer, so if an American wins it'll be sent from America, if a European wins it'll be sent from a European dealer

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • seghier khaled

    seghier khaled 4 months ago

    so ...?

    seghier khaled has uploaded 0 CAD models & has left 89 comments.
  • Mateusz Czwakiel

    Mateusz Czwakiel 4 months ago

    So any information on the winners?

    Mateusz Czwakiel has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 2 comments.
  • BP

    BP 4 months ago

    Who would have believed canoes and fishing could be so full of suspense.

    BP has uploaded 6 CAD models & has left 11 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 4 months ago

    winners been announced yet?

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • Jonny Patty

    Jonny Patty 4 months ago

    Hey, what's happening GrabCAD? Why the delay with selecting winners?

    Jonny Patty has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 7 comments.
  • IVO ALBERTI

    IVO ALBERTI 4 months ago

    They ended the canoes ...!

    IVO ALBERTI has uploaded 216 CAD models & has left 3421 comments.
  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 4 months ago

    Finalists are announced! We apologize for the delay, winners will follow in about one week depending on the amount of feedback we see.
    ...
    For those new to the Challenge process, we release what we believe to be the top entries. They are listed in no particular order. Over the next week, participants are able to voice their support or concerns. We encourage everyone following to leave a comment with their favorite or letting us know if we left a great entry out of the mix. Don't think of this as a vote but more of a soft announcement. We want to connect with you on these concepts and that means more than having you submit entries it also means getting your feedback, too.

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • mcluka

    mcluka 4 months ago

    The winning designs are nice, but the rules have been changed a lot from the beginning of the competition and I am not a big fan of that. The main requirements were that the holder should be moveable in all directions, many of the chosen designs are static and can not be regulated in any way. You must have changed or deleted some of the beggining reuiqrements or you just simplified them. However I congratulate to the winning designs and wish the best. Regards.

    mcluka has uploaded 13 CAD models & has left 48 comments.
  • Imprenta3D

    Imprenta3D 4 months ago

    Congrats to the winners!!

    Imprenta3D has uploaded 6 CAD models & has left 38 comments.
  • robert sparks

    robert sparks 4 months ago

    Congratulations to the selected finalists! I am somewhat surprised with the results, as it seemed the most difficult part and clearly specified challenge was that the design is to be adjustable. A few of the selected winners do not seem to match the design specification. Best Regards

    robert sparks has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 6 comments.
  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 4 months ago

    Comments are added for more clarity. @mcluka which designs do the best job of meeting the adjustable design requirement in your opinion?

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • mcluka

    mcluka 4 months ago

    for example: RodHolder clamp V2 , also every design I made was fully qualified and is following every single requirement, but it would be unfair to point out someone, I am just trying to say, that this competition hasn't been well constructed. As did also Robert Sparks say, some of the winning designs just don't meet the requirements that were given at the beginning. Rules should't be changed so drastically from those on the beginning of this competition. I guess every single designer or engineer here could design a simple static holder without any movements, but the main requirements were, that you should be able to place the holder at any specific angle, at this was the hardest thing to do - to make a good looking design and also have the functionality that would meet the requirements.

    I don't want to argue nor do I want to take the prize away from someone else, I just think that there are several other designs that were constructed way closer to the first given idea. This is just my opinion,

    I wish you the best,

    Regards,

    Luka

    mcluka has uploaded 13 CAD models & has left 48 comments.
  • Jonny Patty

    Jonny Patty 4 months ago

    My joint favourites from finalists selected are ROD-REV by ivo.alberti & TRAPPER CANOE ROD HOLDER SYSTEM by andrea.garuti - these are good choices for 1st & 2nd. Great blend of design skill, novel ideas and in general both look like a product you'd want to buy. Well done to both.

    I really like nouamane's very clever concept, but it hasn't been developed into a low cost manufacturable product and may have a few problems (needs a catch to stop falling apart) and I feel the rod support is way to short... likely will mark the rod's cork/foam permanently due to bearing on edges & little distance between. Still it's a clever enough that it may still be deserving of a prize, however I think credit should be given where detail work / underlying issues (not to mention mastery of design for manufacture methods) have been addressed & completed.

    I don't feel the others shortlisted are not strong enough to be on there as finalists... in fact I'm very surprised.

    Another issue in general is material choice. I feel designers should have a holistic appreciation of materials they choose. Wood? Spec'ing just 'wood' or 'timber' is like spec'ing your fiance's engagement ring to be made from Carbon. e.g. To look at some extremes; Balsa or Teak, Spruce or Mahogany, Ash or Oak? Quite a spectrum in terms of; strength, hardness, durability in marine environment, dimensional stability in wet environment, ageing/drying required etc, BUT most importantly Sustainability - tropical hard woods are notorious for 'fiddled' sustainable management docs and anyone can see the deforestation issues that South America and Africa currently face (caused by Western demand) which suggest we should be avoiding tropical hardwoods where possible in order to be eco-friendly. So how are such designs rated for Eco credentials... when renderings suggest tropical hardwoods? At at the end of the product life, how will a knackered piece of wood be recycled? Into CO2 in the fire or into landfill?

    Also, take a close look at use of wood grain direction Vs geometry. Andrea's looks well considered for grain direction. Ivo's got 2 different grain directions rendered - may be a grain break out risk at the bridge part of the loop with either - nothing that couldn't be solved though (maybe 30, 45 or 60 degree grain direction to horiz?) Some other designs have more fundamental errors... grain rendered like it's moulded (like plywood) when design intent is from solid, and others have grain same direction as a tight rad on a structural leg, causing high stress concentration for no reason. Such engineering detail should be judged, otherwise it's more an art competition than an engineering competition.

    Will be interested to see retail price when winners hit market - many wood designs require skilled material selection & 3d machining with lots of setups - so very labour intensive! Andrea's maybe got the edge here - Andrea's product on a 2d CNC bed. That said, Ivo's is small, low piece part qty, little material used and really elegant. I can't separate 1st & 2nd :)

    Jonny Patty has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 7 comments.
  • BP

    BP 4 months ago

    I'll stand and voice my concerns with some of the finalists as well. Ignoring the adjustable angle requirement and then straight removing it from the description, without notice, is poor practice.

    "Did we leave anything amazing off the list?" - shameless plug, but I'll try.
    Look up "Rodholder Challenge Entry - Wood Composite v2". I can't seem to get the link to work in the comments.

    BP has uploaded 6 CAD models & has left 11 comments.
  • Alexey

    Alexey 4 months ago

    I'm surprised.
    Completely illogical choice.
    Wood will not work as clamp body. Wood will be damaged at such loads, all the more so, it is not possible to make a thread in wood.
    As for rodholders without clamp, it means, that canoe gunwale and rod holder should be make very accurately and be adjusted to each other. And should be take into account that gunwale has a curvature, and rodholder also should fit with this curvature and, that wood will change size when it wet. v
    ..

    Alexey has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • Branko Stokuca

    Branko Stokuca 4 months ago

    So many great entries and yet only few of them are on the list. Such a shame.

    Branko Stokuca has uploaded 117 CAD models & has left 1004 comments.
  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 4 months ago

    I'm sorry but I have to agree with the majority of the comments on here. Most of the finalists designs don't meet the initial brief of being adjustable in all directions. That was 1 of the hardest parts of the challenge, otherwise it would have just been a styling challenge. In addition to this at least 1 of the finalists designs would probably damage the surface of the hull when tightened. Lastly the design which uses a jigsaw type assembly, although really good idea, is flawed by the requirement for a straight section of hull for it to all slot together, but the basic form of a canoe is curved from front to back and therefore this bracket style is limited to where it can be positioned.

    With regards to @Alexey firstly different woods would easily be strong enough for most of these designs, early (and some current) workshop clamps and tools are made of wood and would have no problem withstanding the forces involved here. Secondly you can very easily make a screw thread in wood, again vices and clamps can be made of wood and these products require screw threads. and finally you say wood will change shape when wet, yes this is true, but by finishing with a strong varnish etc, this will go a long way to prevent this.

    If I was pushed to pick a favourite, it would be ROD REV by iv.alberti purely on styling. It's not adjustable in any way but since it was uploaded it became my favourite for aesthetics and it's simple installation/use.

    I'm annoyed at how flawed this challenge has been from delaying the release of finalists, to picking designs which in the most part didn't meet the brief. hopefully other challenges will be better managed

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • Alexey

    Alexey 4 months ago

    @Andy
    Yes I agree about workshop clamps, but look at their design and look at rodholder designs, they are different.
    Wood is anisotropic and this mean, that needs very carefully choose a wood blocks before manufacturing a such part like clamp. In worst case clamp will be damaged at using.
    Yes, make thread in wood it is really very easy. But how long this thread will life?
    Can you protect wood thread from water?
    There are some strong woods like oak or ebony but we speak about product for mass production which will be made on CNC. I think it is too expensive use a hard kinds of wood.
    About wetting. Ok maybe they really can be covered with suitable varnish. And holes in parts also will be protected.

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  • Sara Sigel

    Sara Sigel 4 months ago

    It sounds like everyone agrees that the winners should stick closer to the original adjustable at all angles requirement. I'll get this feedback to the jury and will ask them to look closer at whether the holder will harm the canoe.

    This is great feedback and is exactly what the finalist time is for, thanks! Now, it'd be great to see who you think should be included in the winner discussion who is not listed in the finalists. Who are we missing? It will help us ensure that the right entries are recognized.

    Sara Sigel has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 1623 comments.
  • John Vausch

    John Vausch 4 months ago

    Poorly designed contest in my opinion. There's a lot of good overlooked designs. Pretty surprised at the results. Two of the finalists aren't adjustable and two look like they would damage the hull of the vessel.

    The following three designs really stood out to me and should definitely be considered in the final: (Included names and entry name incase links don't work)

    Trapper Canoe Rod Holder
    @mateusz czwakiel - Trapper Canoe Rod Holder
    Rodholder Clamp V3 (Wood)
    @Flaviano Crespi - Rodholder Clamp V3 (Wood)
    Rod Holder Concept 6/concept 3 update:
    @Jonathan -Rod Holder Concept 6/concept 3 update

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  • Alexey

    Alexey 4 months ago

    I like Canoe Rod Holder by Bj
    Canoe Rod Holder
    Very simple and interesting design. I would choose this rod holder for calm fishing with the light float fishing rod.
    For other conditions I would choose my design .
    /

    Alexey has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • BP

    BP 4 months ago

    I'll second that opinion for the Canoe Rodholder by BJ.
    It's a prime example of a design that followed the rules as originally stated. Easy to manufacture, low part counts, limited or no use of plastics, recyclable materials, fully adjustable.

    And while I'm at it, I'll plug my design again as well.
    https://grabcad.com/library/rodholder-challenge-entry-wood-composite-v2-v

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  • BP

    BP 4 months ago

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  • Andy Nicholson

    Andy Nicholson 4 months ago

    Congrats to the winners. I'm sorry but I am bitter about the results. Firstly, the overall winning design is virtually the same as my own design, so why did I not even get a look in? I know designs in competitions are going to be similar but the winning design is virtually the same as mine from the way it attaches to the canoe to how the holder is adjustable. The only changes is, they've made it all from wood and added a little table and compartment add on. I'm not so annoyed that they've stolen my ideas, more annoyed that they on the whole thing and mine didn't even get mentioned, considering they are essentially the same design this doesn't make any sense

    Secondly the judging panel say that manufacture cost is a key factor, which is fair enough, but why choose the winner they have when that design has lots of small and larger parts to manufacture? just because it's made of wood surely doesn't make it that much easier to make

    Lastly, why bother having a criteria that the whole thing must be adjustable when the judging panel is going to just ignore that? they might as well have just said it would be nice to be adjustable, but not that important

    Sorry for being negative but this whole challenge has been a farce. Congratulations to those who won and enjoy your canoes

    Andy Nicholson has uploaded 15 CAD models & has left 47 comments.
  • Alexey

    Alexey 4 months ago

    congrats to the winners

    Alexey has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 14 comments.
  • Keith C.

    Keith C. 4 months ago

    Congradulations to the Winners!! But....I believe that the judges should really have read they're own rules..."Your design needs to include: the mounting system to the canoe, the rotating system for the rod holder and the rod holder itself." ...(2) of the designs picked did not adhere to these specifications. Great designs by everyone....but poor and misleading rules and judging.

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  • Branko Stokuca

    Branko Stokuca 4 months ago

    Congrats to all.

    Branko Stokuca has uploaded 117 CAD models & has left 1004 comments.
  • Andrea Garuti

    Andrea Garuti 4 months ago

    I am very glad that my work has been appreciated by the jury, giving me the chance to win my second challenge in GrabCAD.
    I'm not a fisherman. Thank you very much my friend Andrea Benati practicing competitive sports fishing since he was a child and gave me valuable advice to develop my idea in tune with the needs and mindset of a fisherman. Congratulations to the other winners!

    Andrea Garuti has uploaded 2 CAD models & has left 3 comments.
  • IVO ALBERTI

    IVO ALBERTI 4 months ago

    Sono anch'io sospreso del premio che ho ricevuto...
    Sono d'accordo con quanti hanno detto che il progetto di alcuni dei premiati non rispondeva alle regole richieste del challege ( tra i quali in mio ) per quanto riguarda la regolazione , tra le altre cose il pezzo che ho portato doveva essere un transitorio...mah
    probabilmente era destino , sono altresi d'accordo che la giuria ha lasciato fuori dei bei progetti , anche se ad onor del vero , bisogna dire che diversi sono impegnativi sotto l'aspetto dell'investimento dei componenti , pur essendo molto interessanti .
    Ducis in fundo , aldilà del ritardo , la giuria si è inventata un sesto premio ( e per me va bene ) ma che non era contemplato , probabilmente per non lasciarmi fuori , visto che risultavo tra i primi 5 ...:DDD , scusate il mio inglese , ma ho cercato di essere obbiettivo , complimenti agli altri vincitori ...

    I am also sospreso award that I received ...
    I agree with those who said that the project of some of the winners did not meet the requirements of the rules challege (including in my own) with regard to the regulation, among other things, the piece that I took was to be a transitional .. . mah
    probably it was fate, I also agree that the jury has left out some good projects, although to be fair, it must be said that several are challenging in the aspect of the investment component, while being very interesting.
    Ducis least, beyond the delay, the jury has invented a sixth prize (s fine by me) but that was not contemplated, probably not leave me out, because risultavo among the top 5 ...: DDD, sorry for the my english, but I tried to be objective, congratulations to the other winners ...

    IVO ALBERTI has uploaded 216 CAD models & has left 3421 comments.
  • Jonathan

    Jonathan 3 months ago

    Just reading this now and I’m really disappointed to learn that the criteria was changed half way through. This is really not good practice IMO and I can only hope
    It’s not a frequent occurrence. It’s cool to see the feedback from the community and how people are speaking out, I would have to agree with the overall sentiment that this challenge definitely has some issues, and that has nothing to do
    With my designs not being chosen. Of course I know I won’t be chosen every time no matter how amazing my submissions are, but when certain designs are chosen that don’t even meet the criteria proposed, you start to
    Really question if it’s worth it at all. Again, hopefully this challenge is a rare case.
    The main issues for me personally was that there was no mention of budget and only now we’re realizing that Trapper wanted the absolute bottom end budget wise, I think if we would have know this would have drastically changed most of our designs.
    Also, I have issues with the amount of “similar” or identical designs in this competition. I would like to know how a decision is made in cases where two designs are significantly similar. I won’t point out anyone in particular but there are a few examples in this competition. To me, in cases like this, I think date of posting should be heavily weighted in the decision making process and I think “first to post” should be considered as the winner even if second posters mods make for an overall better end product. The problem is that it’s not fair to put up a design and then have someone come along and just take a few days work to “improve” on it and then they get all the credit. I understand it’s nice to share etc. but this is a “COMPETITION”, it’s unfortunate but I’m seeing how private submissions might be a better route after all.

    Jonathan has uploaded 126 CAD models & has left 1171 comments.
  • Lauri Poldre

    Lauri Poldre about 1 month ago

    We are working on the follow-up blog post with some feedback from the winners :)

    Lauri Poldre has uploaded 1 CAD models & has left 112 comments.
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