Light Electric Vehicle External Design Concept
Italian company CRK s.r.l. welcomes you to design concept of light electric futuristic vehicle which will also be put in the production. This is your chance get some attention in design world and to give your contribution to the future by designing something new and innovative!
The winner has the opportunity to earn additional 5,000 USD for further development of his entry.
Please also follow competition on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/210647409000373/
Requirements
Length less than 1800mm, width less than 1100mm
We are looking to have the frame (safety cell) made in carbon fiber. Body will be complete with two additional aluminum frames (one in the front and another one in the back) to withstand the mechanics: motor, differential, wheels, suspensions, etc
Aerodynamic efficient
Futuristic/supercar design. Vertical doors and similar features are welcome
It will be destinated to urban commuting- manoeuvrability and handling are mandatory
Low center of gravity, correct distribution of the weights will be rewarded
Practicality- normal person (185cm tall) must fit in it comfortably
Manufacturability- the winning design will be put into production
Hard top design (best if convertible)
Suitable for public street circulation (please make sure to include lights, safety features such as roll-bar acting components)
Can be for one or (preferably) two people
No helmet needed so safety belts have to be there
Has to fit four batteries, each one with the following dimensions: LxWxH= 310 x 180 x 225mm . The (4) batteries must be easily and quickly removable and has to stay in a position in which the 180mm dimension is horizontal
Has to fit one motor of the following dimensions: OD= 250mm, length: 200mm which has to be air-cooled
Has to have differential and axles on the back wheels: no hub motors will be used
Top speed will be around 100 Km/h. Design will have to cope with that
Air cooling opening are required. The normal opening surface as per a standard car is enough
Must fit at least a carry-on bag
Rules
Design can be made in any software (preferably in SolidWorks 2011) as long as IGES file is provided.
Assign a material and color to Solid Works for the purpose of achieving a realistic render
Works on external design only
Winning design will be chosen based on the rules
The competition is open to everyone
Team entries are welcome. In case of team win, prize money will be transferred to team leader who is solely responsible for splitting it among team members
You can submit several designs
Only models uploaded to GrabCAD library will participate in the competition
Only models uploaded through this challenge page here will participate in the competition
Tag your model with “electricvehicle” to make it easier to find
You may upload a private model but you need to share access to indrek@grabcad.com
Privately uploaded models will be made public after the competition deadline
Competition starts: 6st of October, 2011
Competition ends: 11th of November, 2011
Competition winner will be announced in GrabCAD’s blog
Prizes
- 1st prize
1400 USD
- 2nd prize
400 USD
- 3rd prize
200 USD
- 4th prize
GrabCAD T-shirt
- 5th prize
GrabCAD T-shirt
- 6th prize
GrabCAD T-shirt
About the jury?
The winner will be selected by a joint jury of CRK s.r.l. and GrabCAD and announced on the GrabCAD blog.
About CRK s.r.l.
CRK s.r.l. was founded in 2009 in the northern part of Italy, as an Engineering company. Rapidly grew to conquer the role of manufacturer thanks to the development of customized niche products. That is why whether your are either looking for the latest cutting edge technology in the field of Electric Vehicles or just looking for a fastest way to make your cement, we can support you. Its complete solutions encompass the deep knowledge of different areas of technology, including Hydraulics, Electronics, Mechanics.
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Deadline Passed
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Total entries 67
- Who’s in the jury?
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Matteo Spaggiari
Business Development Manager, CRK s.r.l -
Indrek Narusk
CTO, GrabCAD -
Josh Mings
Community Manager, GrabCAD
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100 comments
Alireza SKH over 1 year ago
hi all.why the software is solidworks only?i work with Catia and Alias Autodesk Automotive 2012. can i particapate in the comp with these softwares especially with Alias?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Hi, thanks for your interest in the challenge.
to Donovan: yes, that's for real!
to Arbabali: though Solidworks is preferred, we can accept other softwares.
Thanks,
Matteo
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
Sorry Matteo deleted my comment... I'm new here but have been exposed to the "crowd sourced" or spec work "competitions" A more generic file format eg. step might aid sharing of components like motors, batteries, differentials etc.. Or is that not the intention here?
Kir Ari over 1 year ago
So am I right you want a complete design with all mechanical features like differential, and even safety belts?! So we are talking about the full-scale assebly here, not a concept?
And first price for this competition is 1400USD? And if someone is not accepted working a month under this, then GrabCAD T-shirt? :)))
And on the other hand you could only design a handle for hood release, and first prise is the same...
Danny Tasmakis over 1 year ago
Any examples on what CRK might be looking for?
CRK's website? and I think there's a zero missing on the end of the prize money ;)
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
This is scary... I just hope our industry doesn't go down the same way the graphic design industry has. There are sites where you can get a logo crowd sourced, and you get around a 100 designs to choose from for about $100...
Kir Ari over 1 year ago
Yep, that's what I am talking about here... Just recently Hardi Meybaum was publishing some interesting thoughts in the blog, and now... here we are, totally opposite. Enjoy your crowdsource, mates :)
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
I'm glad to give everyone further clarifications so that we can stay on track.
We are looking for an original and well made concept design. Of course the more detailed
designes are likely to get higher score.
We shared all the features such as the need for a differential, belts and so on because the design should keep those in account.
Let me give you an example about that: hub motor solutions are extremely interesting from a design standpoint, but unfortunately that's not the technical decision we made. So we would like everyone to be aware of that upfront.
Same thing for the batteries: if we receive "skinny" design, then we'd be wondering where to place the batteries.
I hope that clarified the concept.
Answering to the specific questions:
to Donovan, I'm sorry but I haven't deleted your comment. I actually replied to it. I believe the webmaster did and I apologize for that.
Correct, the intention is not to engineer the vehicle, just to give him a design which is compatible with the above features. Keeping in account all the genereal dimensions for batteris and motor will be more than enough for our intentions.
to Kir: We don't require to have the complete project engineered ( we'll take care of that ). We would like to have a good design we can easily translate into reality.
To Danny: I see a lot of designs coming from this site and I think some of those can be considered artworks. We didn't give any idea of what we might look for on purpose. We didn't want to "convey" anyone attention towards a pre-defined concept. We are looking to all the ideas your creativity can come up with.
That's the same reason why, at the same time, we've indicated a comprensive list of the vehicle's features.
I hope I helped clarifying everything,
I'm available for further clarifications.
Thanks,
Matteo
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
Their website: http://www.crk-solutions.it/
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
Sorry Matteo, I meant I deleted my comment..
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
One additional thing worth mentioning: we are completely aware of the hard work behind a thorough design & product Engineering. I respect this job and this challenge is just the starting point for the winner.
In fact once we'll have to translate the design into production, I'll personally contact the winner to agree on the further work we'll need to get done ( and on his additional retribution for that, if the winner is willing to go ahead).
Of course that type of work requires a close relationship and a day-to-day conversation.
We chose to do that as a second step with the winner in a more private environment because at that point we'll be sharing sensitive technical info.
Thanks,
Matteo
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
www.crk-solutions.com
is the English version, is not at a really advanced stage ( we're still on construciton phase), but I'm sure it's better than the italian one.
Manolis Theofilos over 1 year ago
Oh come on Solidworks only? Give me a break....
Brian Donovan over 1 year ago
1800mm? Am I reading that correctly? Thats like 6 feet long.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Manolis, as you can see from my previous post, we can accept other formats as well.
Brian, that's correct: approx 6 feet...it's a vehicle for urban commuting: those dimensions are critical in Europe. I know it is a quite a bit a challenge to design a cool looking vehicle within those dimensions but I'm sure we'll see good designs.
Brian Donovan over 1 year ago
wow, that is a challenge. Count me in!
Depp over 1 year ago
Hi,
"Length less than 1800mm, width less than 1100mm"
These dimensions is for wheelbase or it is general dimensions.
ABC over 1 year ago
Isn't it too complicated for a challenge?
Secondly, if they will use the first place project, the winner will be the worst paid engineer in history :-)
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Brian, I'm glad you're in!
Depp, please consider those as general ( "all in" ) dimensions.
Mateusz, I guess the design is not complicated, once you had the "spark"... About seeing that "spark"...I believe designers have that gift.
As said in the previous post, if the winner is an Engineer or Designer which is able to streamline the additional job ( from design to manufacturing), he will be rewarded for that as well, depending on the contribution he can give and his availability. I hope you'll join.
Diego Montero over 1 year ago
which wheel size do you recommend?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Hi Diego, thanks for joining the Facebook community!
We were thinking about a range between the 12" and 14", from 200 to 280mm width, 30 to 50mm height.
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
30-50mm tyre height? 280mm wide- Those are wide wheels!
Cemal Uslu over 1 year ago
This is a nice one. Hope will be in.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Thanks everyone for the Great Feedback in this first day of the challenge. We are backing the challenge with a Facebook Group. It's a nice place to have a chat (not necessarily from a technical perspective) and relaxing with other passionates. It's new and I see a lot of energy building up already...Enjoy!
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Donovan, yes those are wide wheels indeed. The fact that we are willing to "sacrifice" some energy in the name of the aggressive outlook. We have a great motor+control system which delivers 90% efficiency. A great battery pack. We see that as an investment to please everyone's eyes.
Shannon over 1 year ago
Can you give more specifics on the electric motor and batteries so we can design more intelligently?
i.e. can the batteries be mounted in any position... what kind of speed does the motor operate at etc....
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
I'm posting the standar product catalogue on our website to gibe you a glimpse of our current production. Although we are manufacturing larger motors, this one will be derived from those. If everything goes well you'll see that in a matter of minutes at http://crk-solutions.com/4/motors_drives_439149.html
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Batteries must be mounted flat and their dimensions are: LxWxH= 310 x 180 x 225mm. We need four of those which can either form a single battery pack or be split into two packages of two units.
Kir Ari over 1 year ago
Matteo, thanks for fast response and very good guidelines. One question: would you consider trikes (3 wheel vehicles)? Like this one concept I have: City trike electric vehicle . It can be modified for requirements and uploaded for competition.
ALI over 1 year ago
(safety cell) made in carbon fiber. Aerodynamic efficient, Futuristic/supercar design, manoeuvrability, Low center of gravity,Practicality, Manufacturability, Hard top design, safety features, four batteries, Has to fit one motor which has to be air-cooled, Has to have differential and axles on the back wheels: no hub motors will be used, Top speed will be around 100 Km/h, Air cooling opening are required.
mmm are you just looking for concepts ? which one of those should be a new concept? all of them?
I'm not sure if this is a serious challange but designing a full concept car with all these requirments in one month for $1400 is not reasonable.
Tanel Välja over 1 year ago
I agree with a few people who have written above, the work needed to complete a concept car in a month(and model it) is well above 100 hours+ i would ask a designer to work on it(which add more hours).
Why does the safety cell need to be made in carbon fiber? An aluminium composite shell will be much easier to manufacture+ much easier to put into final production.
My biggest worry is "futuristic/supercar design" aspect - a supercar does not go 100km/h. No designer I know would design a car like that. Futuristic is better, but the futurism is severely handicapped - you have to use specific motors, transmission parts and batteries. In essence we're compromising the look and feel of the car - looks like its from 2020 but the insides have technology for 2010.
Since this car will be initially a single production prototype, why not allow engineers to go crazy and come up with some really great ideas that are easy to adapt to use? Making a concept car that improves upon today's technologies and is easy to manufacture, really separates the excellent engineers from the average ones.
Thanks
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Kir, we decided to go with the 4 wheels for stability aspects.
Ali H, and Tanel, I understand your point: we went through the same process as well. We discussed internally about these same things before posting the challenge. The point is that I saw many concept design which are still on paper after several years. That's because it's impossible to put them in production. Those are perfect design exercises, but unfortunately we won't have the pleasure to ride those. Not soon. We are looking for something different. We have a team of Engineers who are willing to tailor the mechanics together with the design. I think that's a remarkable approach, way better to design the vehicle and then "make a suit" to cover it. Engineers are ready to be challenged at their turn, but we have to give them something they can work on.
That's why I wanted to be, at the same time, as specific as I could, and letting the higher flexibility to the designer ( just "concepts"), giving everyone the opportunity to deliver his best. And then to see that best put together in steel and plastic, quickly. In order to do that, well, we have come down to compromises. Isn't that what Engineering is all about?
We see today's technical solutions and we look at the future as well. I know we can contribute in the next 10 years to deliver excellent products, counting on future technology. I belive it's a long and extremely interesting journey, which starts with a first step. I love to think that this is our first step.
Thanks for contributing.
RF_Design over 1 year ago
"Design have to be made in SolidWorks 2011". Is Dassault sponsoring this competition?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
RF, as per the previous posts, other platforms can work.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Tanel, about the safety cell, the carbon fiber is preferred because it is more versatile: no need to make big investments in the prototype stage. That will allow us to tweak the project with different steps quicker. Also, It's definetely more flexible from a manufacturing standpoint: carbon fiber will allow us to obatain complex shapes without too many constraints.
Tanel Välja over 1 year ago
Hey, thanks for the reply :)
I will try to join the challenge if i have time.
Thank you for the honest answers.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Thank You Tanel. I hope you'll join.
Troy over 1 year ago
Being from USA I am unfamiliar with how you normally commute in Europe. Just under 4ft wide and less then 6ft long, its hard for me to want to fit two 6ft tall people in this car. What other safety features are you putting in this car? Crumple zones? Air bags? Is there a height limit for the vehicle?
Marcus over 1 year ago
Hallo, I have a little problem with dimensions ( 1800x1100) max together with the idea of two passengers. Here are electro vehicles what I have at home : http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4425/fuhrparkvonoben.jpg
The red one is the smallest and the dimensions are height 1540 mm, width 1260 mm, length 2350 mm And this car have nothing to do with comfort, I would associate it with suffering.
But i feel good in that small blue truck there is width 1490 mm.
Kir Ari over 1 year ago
Thanks for your answers Matteo, I will join in this time, at least we have brillian support here :)
Donovan Penaluna over 1 year ago
Marcus.. I can't open your link
Yves-Antoine Crête over 1 year ago
Wow Marcus that's fairly insane!
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Troy, in Europe everything has to shrink to allow everyone to commute without being in a permanent traffic jam. Same proble for parking lots: there are way more cars than parking spaces in the cities.
Air bags will be fitted.
I know it's challenging to have two people, that's why I put preferred. Just to give you an idea, I like the way they handled that in their EV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaVUy54rEE
No height limit for the Vehicle (less than 2.5m), but that will have to cope with aerodynamics.
Marcus, I hear you. Do you think we can improve comfort in smaller spaces? I've been thinking of having an ATV-like seating position a s viable solution. The development in this way can be very interesting....A quad can cope with those dimensions easily.
Kir, thank you for joining.
Marcus over 1 year ago
In this case can be achieved a little more comfort but you must necessarily think about the safety.
When this car go 100 Km/h you cant have two people in a row, I do not think that I must continue writing What happens in case of impact.
You need there two seats + space for bag + zone to absorb impact. I am not sure with 1800 mm
When you look on me photo than that yellow thin e-car with windshield wiper is 2740 mm long and it is only for one person.
One women ( I will not appoint ) have crash with this car in 50 km/h but so hard that the car have fly the distance 10 meter and fell directly on the cab. She escaped without a scratch.
I just can not imagine to sit in a car 1.8 meters short with someone behind me and go 100 km/h. But I like your idea with ATV.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Marcus, I see your point. The interesting thing is that in Europe this vehicle (with such dimensions) falls within the same category as motorbikes. They are evaluated under the same safety rules. No crush test will be made right because of that. The only point on which there might be some difference is the helmet vs the safety belts. Safety is of course one of our first priority. This vehicle is meant to get a good share from scooter (moped) end users. That switch means increased safety and comfort, keeping the same advantages in terms of mobility in our congestioned cities.
I promised to myself to keep the ATV idea for myself as I wanted to see the broader set of inputs from you guys...but I can't help sharing...
I'm excited to see what that will bring.
Diego Montero over 1 year ago
I'm impressed that you are answering everyone Matteo, congratulations!
The safety is my concern as well, I don't think that fitting it into a motorbyke category will decrease the danger on riding this car...
I regret not knowing too much of surfacing, I REALLY wanted to participate as well :DD
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Diego, thanks for your support. I believe that sharing ideas is critical to get the best result. I welcome everyone's feedback.
About the safety I just wanted to underline that the vehicle will have much higher safety comparing to a motorbike...
I must confess that I didn't have too much experience on surfacing as well. Then I went through the tutorial ( Solidworks in my case) and I put together a vehicle design after that. The result is not perfect and surely can be improved, but it was fun. I took the opportunity to learn more about surfacing, just to be able to better interact and support you guys.
Vladimir Novichkov over 1 year ago
designing something new and innovative for a prize of all in 1400$ :)
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Valdimir, please see my post from 3 days ago about that. Thanks
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Toy, more info about European situation on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo
I really love this video from Top Gear. I hope the final result of this challenge will be better though.
Troy over 1 year ago
Top Gear is an awesome show.
Thanks for all the info. I cant wait to submit a design. Good Luck all.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Welcome on board Troy!
Kaspar Kiis over 1 year ago
Hi all, we changed the specification from internal and external design to external design concept ONLY. You are able to see it under Challenges and hopefully we will get lot of good and interesting results. Sorry about the confusion in the beginning and good luck!
Troy over 1 year ago
Are you serious? Man, I had the inside laid out already.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Troy, just to clarify: I see that many designers were arguing about designing and engineering the whole vehicle, including differential, drivetrain, gearbox and so on... I asked Kaspar to specify that the object of the challenge is the design, not a complete ready-to-use mechanical project & design. If you already have the inside layout, that's still in the object of the challenge. So you're good. I hope to have clarified.
Kaspar, maybe it's better to specify further (with examples) in the challenge description to make sure everyone is on the same page. Thanks, Matteo
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
and I can't wait to see the interiors...
Mihkel Tedremaa over 1 year ago
Hello! Can I add several designs?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Mihkel, Sure!
Troy over 1 year ago
Ya that makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.
Danny Tasmakis over 1 year ago
Just wondering why the number of entries show zero.
Troy over 1 year ago
I think its because they reset the contest with the new "external design only" parameters. So those who sent in models before have to resend them. Just my guess
Sönke Dierks over 1 year ago
î see some problems in the requirements:
first of all, why has it to be so small? it will be really hard to fit two persons in, even the space for a carrybag is very limited. it is simply too narrow for sitting next to eachother and far too short for a tandem configuration (comfort should not be forgotten). a single seated configuration would not be the first choice even if its just for commuting to work because the usability is so limited. it cant be used for a variety of short inner city rides for instance picking up a child from school, taking your girlfriend out to a restaurant etc...so another, bigger car is still required. a carbon monocoque and the aluminum frames will be very expensive to produce. i´m not shure if anyone is willig to buy a single seated, expensive car that goes only 100 km/h topspeed just to commute to work. you have to be very idealistic to do that. 100 km/h really seems a bit slow if you concider going for short distances on highways which are part of the jouney to work for many of us ( just a german point of view: average speed on autobahn: 130 km/h).
"supercar-features" won´t help there ;-).
maybe the requirements should have a second thought on usability.
i really like the idea of designing an electric vehicle but i doubt that this one with all of its restrictions will succeed on the market...maybe as a niche-product for true idealists.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Sonke, I see your points and all of them are founded. Said that, I believe that conversation is more from a marketing perspective and competitive positioning rather than technical-related. I'll be glad to talk about that in the group: http://www.facebook.com/groups/210647409000373/
I'm not sure about your background ( technical or marketing) but niche markets aren't so bad....(isn't Tesla in a niche market?) Everyone knows that car though.
Looking forward to seeing you in the group, thanks, Matteo
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
I posted on the FB group how some of the major car manufacturers are facing the same research. We can do better!
Vadim Romanovich over 1 year ago
Since you state that it needs a differential on the rear, I'm assuming you are inferring that it has to be a 4 wheel car (can't be a trike). Am I correct in the assumption?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Vadim, you're right, that's Correct.
Victor Ragusila over 1 year ago
I have a question about aerodynamics. Do you have a limited power budget, so you actually need good aero to get to 100km/h, or do you just want to have a very "aero looking" car? Should we try to come up with aero calculations, or mainly concentrate on the design? I've been involved in a number of aero-intensive vehicles (a bicycle that can reach 117km/h on flat ground, http://vimeo.com/30181665) and good aero is not always good-looking aero.
Victor Ragusila over 1 year ago
I got an additional question. You specify differential to the rear axle. Does this mean it MUST have rear wheel drive? To me it seems front wheel drive with a small suspension on the rear would free up some nice space at the rear.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Victor, at this point the good looking aero is OK. It's interesting knowing about the aero calculation you made. We can be interested in that for another project. The aero comment was just to avoid the "spongebob" designs (square or too high). The rear wheel drive is just an option, not a requirement. If you feel it's better for you to have the front wheel drive, please go with that. Thanks.
Matt Perez over 1 year ago
Matteo, i have tried to read through a lot of the comments but didn't see the answers I was looking for. At 1100mm wide this vehicle is more narrow than a go cart. With a much higher CG(go cart being 2" off the ground) this idea seems almost dangerous. What about other factors such as crash protection, visibility etc. Will this be on the road with full size vehicles? This seems to fall in line with the old Peel p50 3 wheel vehicle. It was 1400mm long and 1000mm wide and roughly 900lbs. While I do like the idea of something like this I am not sure how well it would do on the market. I'm sure you guys have conducted some focus groups or something along those lines before coming this far but for me in America it seems very unlikely to sell.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Matt, thanks for going through the previous post. As you correctly point out the center of gravity height is one of the critical features the vehicle has to have. I know this concept of vehicle is very far from the US standard idea of vehicle. We are keeping on discussing and posting other manufacturing works on the group: http://www.facebook.com/groups/210647409000373/
You are welcome there to take a look at the articles and see how Europe and Japan are facing these challenges. Thanks for your feedback.
Vadim Romanovich over 1 year ago
For people that think that a tall skinny car is not stable, check out the Tango (http://www.commutercars.com/). The heavy batteries keep the CG low (batteries are at the bottom). For this challenge, having a top spee of just 100km/h this is not a race car, so even if it was 1,500mm tall, it could still be very stable (assuming not too much weight is in the roof).
Anthony Samboer over 1 year ago
Hi Matteo
Is there a minimum ground clearance?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Hi Anthony. If we stay above 160mm that's OK.
Kaspar Kiis over 1 year ago
Hi guys, just a quick update from our client. Batteries has to stay in a position in which the 180mm dimension is horizontal. Lots of good designs already. Keep on going!
mike over 1 year ago
hi guys can u give more detail dimensions for the motor?
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Hi Mike, the motor will be: OD= 250mm, length: 200mm which has to be air-cooled. It will be derived from our standard motors. See our standard motor catalogue at: http://www.crk-solutions.com/4/motors_drives_439149.html
but it will be shorter ( 200mm). I hope that helps.
mike over 1 year ago
yes it helps thank you for that reply
mike over 1 year ago
nice website
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Thanks Mike!
jonathan over 1 year ago
Have a look at this, shame we did not keep on going with the innovation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-YHdvQefQY
Cemal Uslu over 1 year ago
Hi Matteo, Do you have any informations about weights of Batteries and Motor?
If their weights are close, i can put one more battery to the car.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Jonathan, you are right, the current EV market is still stuck there because there hasn't been any massive incentive to switch to EVs. But now I think the moment is right..
Cemal, each battery weights 20Kg. Motor is around 25 Kg
Jamie Klopp over 1 year ago
Hi Matteo, I'm going to work on this if I get some time. Like others here, I'm concerned about the overall dimensions, though it's an interesting challenge to design so small. Here's a concern that nobody has mentioned: Pedestrian Protection will be difficult with a vehicle this short, and I know PedPro is critical for Euro regulations.
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
Jamie, I would be glad to see you participating into this challenge. I know what you are referring to about pedestrian protection. That regulation is made for cars and not for light vehicles though. So we shouldn't be worried about the regulation. Of course safety for pedestrian will be kept in account in the frame engineering phase. Thanks for contributing.
Sayli Joshi over 1 year ago
Electric motor car is really very innovative one....
http://www.unlimitedrvs.com/
Brent Carter over 1 year ago
Someone should render the top six entries (when they're announced) together to show how they differ in size. Might be interesting to see.
Anthony Samboer over 1 year ago
Am I right in assuming that the final deadline for the CRK electric is 11th of November at 23:59 (11:59 pm) in the latest timezone (UTC-12:00)
Cemal Uslu over 1 year ago
i hope so. but i dont think so :))
the deadline is for Boston i think. But after the deadline for Tallin, files will not appear on the entries page. They will fix the files that are added between Tallin and Boston.
It was the way on previous challenges. So we still have time for latest renderings :)
Now i'm working on a video.
Victor Ragusila over 1 year ago
Hello
Does anyone know the time of the deadline? I am still rendering some images, would like to know the exact cutoff time...
thank you
Victor
Hardi Meybaum over 1 year ago
Hi guys. The deadline is UTC -12 (one timezone after Hawaiian).
Victor Ragusila over 1 year ago
Hello
I've uploaded my model with the name ElectricVehicle CRK STING VictorRagusila and the tag electricvehicle. I am still uploading the IGS and some more renderings. It did not apear as an entry to the competition, altough i have uploaded it from the competition site.
I was hoping someone from grabcad can add it to the competition or let me know if i did anything wrong. It is my first model i made for grabcad, so i hope i didnt miss any step....
cheers
Victor Ragusila
Victor Ragusila over 1 year ago
the link to my model is ElectricVehicle CRK STING VictorRagusila
David Dearing over 1 year ago
No matter who wins, I want to congradulate everyone who entered. I tried to do this challenge and failed miserably. The car's size constraints drove me insane. The fact that there were 76 excellent entries shows the skill and imagination that is out there. Great job all. Hat's off!!
Matteo Spaggiari over 1 year ago
I want to congratulate with everyone with the great job you guys did. The entries are far beyond any expectation. They are extremely professionals, fancy and smart. 79 entries...I'm impressed and thankful. In order to carefully evaluate your designs from all the perspectives, I ask you to be patience for the results. We want to evaluate the design, mechanics, accuracy and the way you conceived the vehicles. That will require time. To better assess your effort, I ask you to be patient till the end of November for the results. Thanks for your comprehension and for the great designs you came up with.
Cemal Uslu over 1 year ago
oh no it is too late!! :))) But i know, you are trying to pick up the best to have fair conditions and pick up the one that you need.. That is the way should be!
I want to congratulate you too Matteo! and GrabCad staff also. That was an amazing competition. I got excited every second of it and still i do...
Chris Duncan over 1 year ago
What an awesome challenge. This is a new frontier, in vehicles and the design process. There is a little bit of nay-saying going on but I think that putting something like this in front of hundreds of designers is going to get better results than doing it in house. It also gives the new engineers/designers trying to break into the field a chance. I've seen so much history in Detroit where they didn't move to new designs soon enough because their old entrenched in house designers wouldn't move over for the new to come in.
I'm just sad that I joined GrabCad after this contest was expired. Thanks to GrabCad for such a great site and thanks to Mr Spaggiari for trying this out. Can't wait to see the winners.
ABC over 1 year ago
I can see a lot of congratulations. But where is the results?
Branko Stokuca over 1 year ago
On the previous challenges there was a result column, but now I don't see it. How do you people know who won?
ABC over 1 year ago
I thought it was a GrabCad challenge, not facebook.
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