Is GrabCad Ranking system a Pyramid scheme?
This system very closely resembles a pyramid scheme. Reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
The people on top stay on top with little effort and the people below have no chance to rise to the top. If your not on top to get higher in rank you need to work your tail off and if you relax a bit you will quickly slide down the scale. How can Grabcad members that haven’t had an account since the beginning get recognition? There are newer members with great models on this site but they get lost in the huge pile. I believe there is an unfair advantage given with top visibility to the HIGHEST RANKED and MOST DOWNLOADED that is keeping them on top.
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Silvio Arcanjo over 1 year agoI've stayed in 4 and now I'm 7.
It really is difficult to maintain the classification. But I learn more every day.
Who participates perceive reality. Fateh I have witnessed the rise little by little. Today he is the most commonly downloaded.
I'm in college now. I fight for my title of engineer. Maybe I'll drop some positions in Grabcad. But I'll take it one step in my professional life.-
Aaron over 1 year agoInteresting you bring up our peer Fateh. You are ranked #7 and he is #51. Do you find any logic behind that raking?
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Silvio Arcanjo over 1 year ago
I am a member the longest. Next 10 months ago. Participation account directly in the classification. I'm always downloading. If they are tasteful (like). I'ma friend of Fateh. I quoted him because I like it. You asked about my rating. I think I'm on 7 why I love drawing. But this does not make me better than anyone. I do not know why. But I feel sad = ( smile triste
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Aaron over 1 year ago
This has been discussed before, and yes it's an issue worth discussing. I can't help but wonder how I'm ranked above Fateh MERRAD as he and I recently had a discussion about it. How he isn't at least top 10 now is beyond me because he obviously more talented than most in the top 50. I admit he's far beyond my capabilities, yet he's 2 spots below me. I don't expect to hear this from anyone else in the top 50, but it's fact. The ranking algorithm is a little skewed.
Does my rank mean a lot to me? No, except when I go to the Engineers page and the first page coming up is by ranking based on ???????. I don't want to see myself on the first page, but i do want to see the most talented people on the site. Wouldn't you want newcomers to see what the site has to offer in terms of it's "best" designers instead of it's most "popular", again based on ???????.
William, I always admire your upbeat and very helpful thoughts on gaining points here on GC, but I hope you don't really believe that uploads and badges get you high in the ranks. If so, I suggest you research your 1st page peers a little and compare them to people on other levels.
Again, please don't hear this from a sore loser point of view. I myself think there are many users on here who far exceed my talents as a DESIGNER and should be the shining light of GC. I am only writing this comment on their behalf.
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Aaron over 1 year ago
Oh yes, and lets not put aside the fact that somehow quantity beats quality here.
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William over 1 year agoI can see what you are saying Aaron but if you read my question right (( What does matter to me is the models that get uploaded, the community, the help people give you, the help you can give back, the knowledge you can share and gain with others and the future of GrabCAD going from strength to strength to keep this great site and community the best and on top of all others ))
That is more important that any number on your profile.....
In saying that it is true that the more you participate within the community the better your rank will also get as to renders, Q&A's uploading models ect, ect.....
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William over 1 year ago
That is why I have not uploaded a model for a little while now Aaron as I will only be uploading models that I feel are of good quality matched to my skill levels @ that time of my education.
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Fateh MERRAD over 1 year agoChris is a very good question
thank you aeron for your comment
I think anyone can rank among the top 10, because if I send a hundred prismatic parts I will be among the first and that's not good and I have seen others that are filed away and they have an exceptional job as Hamza Boulkrar, -
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William over 1 year ago
Hi Chris S I can see you point and were you are coming from as I was the same when I first joined GrabCAD I wanted my rank to go up but now after many months on here it does not matter to me were people are. What does matter to me is the models that get uploaded, the community, the help people give you, the help you can give back, the knowledge you can share and gain with others and the future of GrabCAD going from strength to strength to keep this great site and community the best and on top of all others.
There is many ways you can improve your rank on GrabCAD as Kevin has all ready said.... with renders, models, Q&A's
you can also get more badges if you help others with model requests, renders ect, ect and there is a really special badge above them all and that is the Rube Goldberg experiment @
Rube Goldberg ExperimentNot only will you get the badge for your section but what fun you will have being part of that team and one day seeing all our sections animated (( SUPER WICKED ))
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Robert Stein over 1 year agoChris... How much does your rank on GrabCAD mean to you?
If it means a lot, then, upload more models, do renders and soon you'll be on top... It means nothing to me, so I'm happy because one worry less in my life ;)-
Chris S over 1 year ago
It wouldn’t matter to me if it wasn’t there. Why have it if it’s not accurate.
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Robert Stein over 1 year ago
I think that this is all a matter of some sort of "evolution"... Will see where it goes. Until then, lets not let our pride and personal feelings ruin the good that community effort gives us. Automated algorithms that decide on ranking will never be as good as objective personal evaluation on submitted file quality and help one provides with correct answers to questions...
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Aaron over 1 year ago
You think this is ALL automated? I would love to meet that programmer. He would either be a genius or a complete whacko.
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Ivan Stojicic over 1 year agoDon`t know how is based GC ranking...(don`t want to know), but, think Chris got a point...more or less, for example take one, just one, Toghe Bobby`s model, downloaded it and you will see, guy has parts more than last 70.000 - 80.000 members all together in just one model! Chris is right to be upset...but, c`est a la vie :)
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Chris S over 1 year ago
Ivan, thanks for your comment. I have tried to find the "Toghe Bobby" model and have had no luck. Can you give a better search word or a link to it or him please.
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Kevin Dobson over 1 year agoRobert has the right of it, if it matters that much to you, then upload the work, be active in the Q&A and comments.
As for me, it does matter a bit, but I'm content where my ranking is for now, and it is fairly easy finding the time to maintain. When it slips too far, I add a few models, and participate a bit more and it's right back where I want it.
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Doug Davey over 1 year agoChris ........ please please ...... GrabCad is not even on the same planet as "Pyramid_Schems" ..... actually .........this is a waste of time even trying to explain
