HOW TO CREATE 3D PDF IN AUTODESK INVENTOR 2013
Hi everyone, I wanted to chime into this conversation and bring a different perspective. I have been fortunate in my career to have managed multiple Autodesk and non Autodesk applications as well as have worked for Autodesk and now with tetra4D, an Adobe Partner with exclusivity in creating 3D PDF technology.
Having been in various positions, the question is never about who sucks and who wins; the question here is what’s the best approach when determining what employees or your customers need to accomplish specific tasks or to view data that best represent your design intent.
Understanding what both programs provide and educating employees on when you use one over the other is very important. These are two different workflows.
I will speak on behalf of the PDF platform, as this is what we do best.
One reason many of our customer use a PDF is to protect their intellectual property without having to dumb down an .aim and .ipt file just to share it. The other reason is that the Adobe Reader is in 98% of desktops worldwide, hands down, no questions asked. It’s installed by default. So when you send someone a 3D PDF, all they have to do is double click on it to open it…just as you would a 2D PDF. It’s simply an extension of a workflow they already understand and know how to use.
We’ve actually made this very easy for everyone by proving a 3D PDF Plug-In for Inventor that allows you to create a 3D PDF directly from the Inventor interface. It’s very to use and you also have the ability to create a background template that can match your marketing or title blocks objectives.
Dear customers, tetra4D has since been sold to TechSoft 3D. To find the original plug-Ins that have since been enhanced, I’m redirecting you to Simlab Soft at http://simlab-soft.com/index.aspx for the original 3D PDF plug-ins into Autodesk software.
To covert and enrich your 3D PDF’s outside of CAD Applications you can use tetra4D’s Convert and Enrich products at http://www.tetra4d.com .
In summary, they are both win/win programs but serving different purposes.
Give 3D PDF plug-ins a try, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
(former) Product Manager, tetra4D
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Back to the original question - is there a way to create 3D pdf in Inventor - the answer is NO.
You offer an option to accomplish exactly what the question asks at a price
Autodesk offers a different alternative at a different price.
http://grabcad.com/william-1's comment about free is indeed valid. Having worked in the corporate world, it's easier to call the IT guy directly to help install Inventor View, than to ask the boss for money for each seat of Inventor then send IT to install the plugin and follow the installation with a training session on how to use the plugin.
That said, you offer what appears to be a reasonable product for a reasonable price. If 3D PDF is required then Inventor users will pay for your option. I know I have bookmarked your site in case I need 3D PDF for a client. So far my clients have been happy with Inventor View
Hi Ira great to have you here and letting us know a little more about this but I see that you have said the plug in for IV to have 3D PDF's is only a 21 day trial after that we need to pay for such a pleasure! That was never the case with older IV's and Adobe...... I see what you are saying but why would someone want to pay for such a plug in when Auto desk offers everyone a free download of Inventor view?
Hi Ira, yes I do see were you are going with this and you have made a great point I can not dismiss but then again - we do not all work for large company's and then you have students on the other hand that can not afford a $200 plug in from Adobe. If you send someone a link to Inventor view it is a simple as click and install anyone that can turn a computer on can install Inventor view (( it is fool proof )) and again free unlike the Adobe plug in. I hope you can see were I am going with this? :P I hope you have a great day @ work //Handshake
I get where William is coming from with inventor view for internal use. For someone who knows how to navigate inventor it is great. The problem comes in my experience when trying to share data with an external company. You try getting most outside companies to deploy a 700mb file to their employees and in most cases you will get a “no”.
Autodesk offer the .dwfx but again you need design review to view it or an account for Autodesk 360 to get the full range of mark ups etc. A 3d pdf would be great inside Inventor as Ira says the viewing software is “standard” on most desktops. I haven’t tried any of the 3d PDF conversion offerings myself but if you look around the various forums then you will see it’s still not perfect! Generally they seem to fall over with complex assemblies. This is only what I read though.
If you check out Autodesks wish list for inventor you will see it’s under consideration and the way they are buying up companies at the moment Ira may well be an Autodesk employee again!!
Let’s look at it like this; let’s get free out of the equation, because very few things in life that are free.
You pay $4000 for a new seat of Inventor, and you want to share your design intent to someone without Inventor. You send them a link to download the inventor viewer, and depending on who you’re sending it to, they may or may not know what to do it.
$ Cost is associated to the time of having to download the application, in the mean time they cannot see what you sent them immediately
$ Cost is also associated to having to install it, but not everyone has permission
$ Cost is now associated to having to call IT because they done have the proper permission
$ Now a new cost is associated to someone having to learn how to use the viewer
$ Then there is cost associated to someone who is out in the field and can no internet access to even begin any of this process at all.
See where this is going? If you exchanging data like this with someone who knows how to navigate in Inventor, then the viewer is a proper extension.
On the other hand, the cost associated to all of the above is far more than the $200 cost for the 3D PDF for Inventor Plug-In.
Although the associated costs above may not have been yours, sending them a 3D PDF is far more receptive because they already have the viewer. IT is not involved, and customers run out the door and can view your data at any point of time.
Furthermore, your intellectual property is protected. You can apply document security to the file so that so that only those persons with the password are able to open the document at all.
Does this help a little more?
Again, different workflows for different purposes.
I am not so sure about 2013 being able to publish 3D PDF's as there has been a lot of problems with Adobe about this I myself have not yet tried it with the 2013 version of IV. I do however use Inventor view for such tasks if I am sending someone a model and they do not have IV 2013.... Inventor view is a FREE download to anyone (( Hahaha AUTO DESK - always doing there bit for us all FREE of charge )) and with View you can open any .IAM or .IPT
Adobe sucks AUTO Desk wins
Kevin, and William are not incorrect. The inventor viewer is free and works wonders. The issue surfaces when you are in a position like mine, or possibly the original poster's. I work with a lot of companies (primarily steel mills) and due to their policies, employees do not have the proper permissions to download any 3rd party applications. This is where 3D PDFs are a huge benefit. As Ira noted, most computers computers are preloaded with Adobe Reader, and therefor my customers will be able to view the 3D model without the hassle of going through the bureaucracy of their own company to get permission to download a simple viewer. Both points are valid, but in the grand scheme PDF's are much more versatile.
The vanilla version of Inventor it is not possible to print to 3D PDF. It can be done with use of Ira's recommended plug-in, as well others.
However, when it comes to sharing design data, the correct solution depends on the environments of the people sharing the data. As there are other many viable options for sharing design data beyond these two discussed.