How can we improve Challenges?
You can send me a private message or answer, below. We are always looking to improve GrabCAD. We want to hear what you want Challenges to be for you. What can we improve in Challenges? What kind of Challenge sponsors would you like to see? What do you want your Challenge experience to be?
In all challenges was clear descriptions. Recent competition was very interesting with many impressive models, also, the description was clear. Just some participants inability to realizing some requirements for challenge, start to express their dissatisfaction. Like .dae file format and other… if you can’t do the requirements, don’t participate in challenge. Otherwise, you can try your luck with your other skills.
Challenge sponsors choose the winners from what they have, but not what “public” likes. When “public” start the challenge, then, can choose the winner at own discretion. Sometimes all participants are inappropriate, but still need to choose. Even more, that participants can easily communicate with sponsor.
It would be great, that all models get a feedback. Also would be great to see how the model of the winners was used.
I think, that need to expand the list of software, need to add Autodesk 3DS MAX, Autodesk Maya and others. GrabCAD community is growing :)
This is just my opinion!
We all know (or should know) that it takes a long time to through each entry to choose a winner, but to help with our patents durring the judging it would be nice to be kept in the loop about how the judging process is going. Also any feedback, even to the designs that did not make the cut, would be nice so we know that at least it looked at would be nice. JF Brandon's did a great job with this on his led light bottle project.
A few points…
Complaining on the competition description page about what a bad decision the Jury have made, to me, seems completely wrong. I realise it’s a public forum but this isn’t only disrespectful to the winners (all they’ve done is upload and share a great design), but it’s also showing a complete lack of respect to the competition organisers and GrabCad team. If you have a problem with the chosen designs, approach the organisers with a private message; I’m sure they’d be willing to offer critique on why you weren’t a winner. Why bring the tone down of the entire competition.
It would be nice if the organisers could give explanations as to why those designs that didn’t get a top-spot didn’t, but when you have 100+ entries this obviously isn’t feasible.
If you don’t fully understand the specification, or aren’t sure if you’re idea will fit the brief, simply ask the organisers BEFORE you start work on it. If you don’t want to give your concept idea away, again, send them a private message. I’ve done this on numerous occasions and always get a quick reply.
Remember you have a choice to enter a competition. No one’s forcing you. The chances are, you won’t win; but if you’re happy with your entry this shouldn’t matter: you’ve now got a great new piece of work to add to your portfolio, and you’ve probably learnt something on the way.
Finally a suggestion to the organisers: It would be nice to know what is being planned for the winning entries once the competition has ended. Will the designer still be involved in further developing the idea? Will they get anything back from it (other than the prize money)? How long should we expect to wait until we see something in production? It's absolutely fine if nothing comes back to the designer, but it would be nice to know. Maybe it could be a requirement in the competition description or something…
(( IMPROVE )) When a new challenge is launched - Would be great to have a clear description in what the client wants, on many occasions some of the descriptions have not been so clear and many people do not stick to the guild lines of the challenge as they did not understand what was asked from them 100%.
(( CHALLENGE SPONSOR )) "LEGO" get Lego to do a challenge and have there design team giving feedback - That would be a dream challenge LoL'ss
(( CHALLENGE EXPERIENCE )) Great feed back from whom the challenge is for, having fun doing the challenge maybe the winners of challenge if there product goes to market kept in the loop as to it's progress or even if it does not go to market but still used as part of the design that is going to market seeing it's revision work for finial product and also kept in the loop as to it's progress :P
I would like to repeat my comments from Rally Challenge.
1. Exact rule regarding technical and design requirements.
1.1. Universal nurbs or mesh format for all participants regardless of the software used (igs/step/obj or stl/...).
1.2. Two tier selection process:
1.2.1. formal selection: all those who's input fits technical requirements
1.2.2. Final selection: whatever reason jury can rationally explain
1.2.3. Complaints must be publicly addressed but they don't change the final verdict (...or they can..).
2. It should be wise to determine what are intellectual rights for those which gets to the finals. Few hundred euros or dollars are peanuts/baksheesh. There should be an option to exclude oneself from this kind of rewards.
3. Grabcad should demand from "customers" that they offer a royalty for the projects they actually use. Fixed sum rewards cancel many intellectual property laws through out the world.
... for the rest check my comments at the "Rally Challenge".
Great comment about expand the use of other software's Tomas. This is no longer just a pure engineering site it is also a design/engineering site now and has been for some time. For GrabCAD to keep growing and expanding the use of design/media software will have to be adapted also.
In some of the challenges I have noticed many models do not meet the challenge requirements. I think if there are models like this submitted, blatantly obvious that they do not belong, they should be removed so they do not clutter up the rest of the valid entries.
Maybe, competitors mustn't to share their models in contests (only in contests). This way, customer will be forced to choose the models he really need. Because now, is possible to obtain the situation, when customer collecting all models, but gives winning places to his friends, or for any persons.
The customer need to choose the winner by pictures, and, then he ask the winners for the 3D model.If the model doesn't exist, the winner disqualified, and his prise goes to next.
This way, competitors have some more insurances. Of course, this method doesn't defense ideas, but this is better than nothing,
Bogdan - When a challenge starts then it is a requirement that a 3D model be uploaded, how else is the client and judges going to see if the model meets the needs of the client and also the foundations of the concept as to size, tolerances, thicknesses, ect ect ect. This can not be done with a render and also other peps are better @ rendering that others, so one might have a great concept but might not be so great @ the render side of things and this might put people off entering the challenge as to there render skills. This is just crazy to think a client would pick a model that his friend uploaded, if the client done that he would not be a client for long as the company he was working for or owned would go out of business. People need to understand the rules when entering a challenge and the rules are all models are property of the client that get uploaded for the challenge, and the client and judges decision is final with picking the winning design for what ever there reasons are. People need to stop moaning about the winning designs that have been picked and just be thankful to GrabCAD for giving us designers/engineers a change to be part of something exiting with promoting these challenges, winning some money along the way, T-shirts or what ever the prize may be and also the recognition the designer/engineer gets from winning the challenge. GrabCAD is giving it's community a chance for there CONCEPTS going to market which would not be possible for many people using this community otherwise.
So it seems like continued feedback is a trend here both during, after, and once products start to come to life in the real world. Do you ever get real world use on past Challenges through the blog? How would you prefer to get feedback after the challenge is complete - publicly as a comment or something or through something like private message? Would you be interested in a initial screening after the deadline where the judges point to all eligible models and then go through a final selection process like @Jura suggested?